Respectfully, as there are sayings that befit a circumstance, but could be said in a tone taken wrongly; when writing, it might not be clear at first which tone one is using [respectful or disrespectful], so we start this post by saying respectfully, so everyone knows that is the one that is being used,-
Respectfully, you know, I could have continued to write in the previous post, Looking Beneath the Glossover. What Really Happened in the Arab World/ Middle East in the 1980s?..., about points in the chronology of the Arab World/ Middle East that would disprove what it is entities are using to perpetrate and perpetuate unnecessary and unjust violence, [disproving] through their very own developments they developed to bring about peace; and eventually lead into the principle that some of the hate that is directed to individuals in the region, are really best left out.
In that effort, I could use among many illustrations and many sources, the book On the Kabbalah and Its Symbolism (Scholem; about 1960, translated 1969...1972), to point out the Zohar, and the close binds to keeping it close, by invitees to the region near Jerusalem decades back; reference, 'airplanes as magic carpets', or Operation Magic Carpet [around late 1940s]; and at the same time, criticize portions of the book, which haphazardly say inaccuracies like paraphrased, 'Islam was based from Christianity', meanwhile the Quran clearly mentions other Prophets, the Injeel, and Torah, which came before its [the Quran] revelation, about 600 years after the Injeel. Both of which might show that premises for hate are brought to rubbish.
...Geographic boundaries of Bany Israel through times, what was it, the bany, the children, left, came back, left, came back, went to?, came back, went to?, and so on; what was or was not Israel in the framework that references Bany Israel in ancient historical sources, especially the Quran.
...When numerous individuals underwent forced conversion, of their religious practices, in eras of history of the region commonly called today Palestine.
... And of course there are other discussions, all of which illustrate that some of the events going on in the region today that involve unjust mass violence, is baseless.
For right now, I will bypass those putting those thoughts in writing, and look to some of the more pleasant things that will stand the test of time, anywhere, any place.
Still, in today's times and era there are a few social developments that have loud marks.
These may include but not limited to:
- Wars/tensions in/with Asia
- Far East Asia
- Vietnam
- Laos
- Korean War
- Anti-Japanese propaganda especially in and around 1946 (also confer sublist WWII)
- Anti-imperialist propaganda (also confer sublist WWII)
- Anti-socialist/communist propaganda (also confer sublist WWII)
- Arab World
- Iraq War
- Post 9-11 combat
- Tensions in Afghanistan as they opposed Russian occupation in the 1970s and 80s
- Events pertinent to the region around Quds/Jerusalem
- WWII
- Anti-German propaganda
- Anti-Jew propaganda
- Pro-Allies
- Anti-Allies
- Pro-Axis
- Anti-Japanese propaganda especially in and around 1946 (also confer sublist Asia...)
- Anti-imperialist propaganda (also confer sublist Asia...)
- Anti-socialist/communist propaganda (also confer sublist Asia...)
- etc
If one briefly looks at these they might say that each and everyone of them often involves or is associated with the word 'hate' to make enmities with others all work.
Briefly explaining what is meant in this post 'military industrial complex'. To be patriotic may be a good thing. I am not going to not be patriotic. There are numerous military industrial complexes in different regions of the world, with different groups and governments that develop and facilitate them. In the financial arena, of people trying to make money, there may be occurrences where misers in the tens of thousands at a time on any given day, solicit a military for an idea, such as a military weapon that the seller thinks is fancy, effective and sophisticated, and the military turns down about 99% of these sales slicksters. It is the sales slicksters that put money before human dignity I am referring to, and referring to them loosely as a concept for contrast in illustration. Often, the 'industrial' aspect, usually means and involves making money, or 'job creation' and [job] sustainment, behind them. Of course jobs may be critical to sustaining an economy. All said, when I say something like, blah blah thoughtfully planned plan which is also wicked, goes to feed the military industrial complex, that does not mean startup looking negatively at the US military, it may just mean that when refining your inner attitudes, to know when to draw the line in the sand between things that have been in history that were during a wartime era, to 'keep boys motivated to fight', that may not need to hang on as embedded in your mind-psych-spirit-heart-etc, for instance well outside of wartime, and while walking down the street amongst neighbors in your town.
The blanks to this post will get filled in.
Let's start with one that may be easier to quickly get a grasp of.
Two maps of China.
There are the maps of China that are popularly seen today, post year 2020 (AD), and there are maps of China, for this post, say around 1920, the one before what might be called the 'big break [up]'. Just look at the inside flap of John Roots' book Chou [authored roughly 1978].
There are other maps of China over the centuries.
To keep things simplified, comparing the two maps, today's post 2020, and maps of 100 years ago, it might bring one to the question, just what is 'China' when it is spoken in conversation?
The two maps show different geographic regions contained.
Older one might have for instance, parts of today's Russia, Mongolia, and so on. The newer one sort of looks like a circular Turkish bread loaf held in front of one's eyes at about a 45 degree tilt from front to back, perhaps a lot smaller than the old map of China.
The map here from a Columbia University/ consultant SUNY, has comparisons for 4 eras.
You might want to take a look at this minute long video, (courtesy ScienceDirect), if you're interested in seeing more about the changes over time. In regard to the '2 maps' referenced, the last 10 seconds of the video, has the last 2 border phases, which in the generation today, ipso facto, the last phase is perhaps what is familiar with by most on day to day basis, however, a great grandparent that may have been alive before 1880, might have lived through both the last 2, possibly 3 phases. Changes happened as to who was who on a geopolitical level during a lifetime.
Source https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdHkY3XYHKA
More maps and pics such as of maps, might be put in this post later.
The point is, if one were to digress, unfortunately, into hate of some sort, when the name China or Chinese is brought up, which set of geographic containment, if geography was the basis, are you referring to?
A rule of thumb that stands here, is often, those ignorant enough to digress into hate, probably do not know the details of either or barely any map, nevermind the differences. And that there are difference which could contradict the arguments for a basis of hate, that brings the basis of hate to rubbish.
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Having roots in Manhattan New York, I wonder sometimes, why focuses were emphasized by others that wanted a certain way of thinking and attitude, to be had on the Middle East, especially simple divides, or focus of anti-Asian, through the 1970s; was it one in the same grand plan, or two separate, or both depending on the convenience? In any event, the whole earth, creation etc., over long span of time, is just that; there is no time, [if one wants to have a rightfully refined inner and contribute to betterment], to get tied up in two or three little specks on the timeline and make it your life.
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Topic: Go Germans! Then, 'the Nazis have gone too far'. Then, it's Go GIs and Allies, and came with it sometimes for some, was disdain for Germans, maybe a 180 degree turnaround in attitude
Looking at that fragment right there, seeing forest from trees, does it make sense for someone to claim themself as psychologically healthy and mature, say a 60 year old man with grandchildren and many branches related to his nuclear family, in America, in today's post 2020 era, to be described as in the group whose attitudes shifted 180 degrees in a matter of a day or two over some hype, and it stuck with them another 4, 5, 6, 7 or so decades?
How could someone embed in themself hate for a person based off a few pedigree points, when they were an advocate of the very same person just a few days before, on the same basis?
That's one of the things war propaganda can do to individuals with impressionable minds.
If one was about 20 years old for illustration, back in the era of D Day, roughly 1944, or even after, when troops came home and expected the next generation or others younger than they to admire the war tunes and stories, it might be understandable to [go or be] gung ho, or if one were on the other side of the battle lines, had allegiance to opposing side, to subscribe to some of the ethnic and nation tied dimensions, for a little while, -but then, outgrow it.
Digging a bit deeper, propaganda for hate against Jews and Roma, among others, was part of the driving force to facilitate the oppression during the decades just before D Day. The jingle in mindset may have been along the lines of hating one group and fan-clubbing the other as they sought and plotted to carry out destructive activities. There indeed may have been certain individuals that produced 'intoxicating to the psychological health', things like magazines, and promoted behaviors that may briefly be described as perversions, which, may have been the ground or rationale some people had at that time while they perhaps referenced stern religious teachings, to condone violence to continue. According to an overwhelming, numerous amount of research over the last at least 80 years, many may have concluded that, the gone too far, outside the scope, past making a point, and other descriptions in those veins, is what the status of developments was in the moments just before D Day. Moreover, becoming existent was the violence itself of WWII, including dragging many into war, and huge loss of life.
Without going into details of reports of the Nazi missions in certain times, summarily for illustration,-
Perceptions of an overly-simplistic equation of anti-Semitic, anti-Roma, anti-Muslim, and other slogans, while Nazi was pro-White [race] was the adversary, may have been perceived by some as simmering down to a colored versus White equation; and that may be where other ethnicities besides the just mentioned, such as African Americans, may have felt they were on an 'opposing side' of the Nazi, thus [Afro or African Americans and others, Native American with African American combined ancestry and so forth,] they were on the opposing side of something that was not on the side of the nearby if not concurrent in time Civil Rights era.
The result, anti-German propaganda + Civil Rights sentiment = anti German, set in the psyche perhaps unfairly too much.
Bringing up a few historical backdrop pieces:
- German Americans that served in the US Civil War
Numerous fought on the side of Union.
Refer for instance, these 3 sources:
German Americans In the War
"German Americans also developed strong anti-slavery and pro-Union views...""...Germans met for military drills at their own "Turnvereins" or social clubs."
- Wikipedia has article, retrieved 9/2024, German Americans in the American Civil War
More than 200,000 native-born Germans, along with another 250,000 1st-generation German-Americans, served in the Union Army, notably from New York, Wisconsin, and Ohio. Several thousand also fought for the Confederacy.
- Number of persons in the US that reported German ancestry
The 2022 American Community Survey statistics are showing about 41.1 million people in the United States, or roughly just over 12% of the population, reported German ancestry, corresponding to German being the most reported ancestry.Census.gov
- Kleindeutschland/ Little Germany
...this a cluster of population in the Manhattan area; evident in Civil War trends referenced above, there were many others.
All to say the obvious that everyone, or perhaps safer to say just about everyone pitched in to build the very America that some persons may still be walking around fuming in, with grievances against certain ethnicities, whether consciously or unconsciously aside, in some instances the basis and the extent of the attitudes, said nicely, might not have, really very much basis, especially in consideration of the larger timeline.
Some have experienced first hand some incidents of Naziism gone extreme, especially back in the wartime and just before wartime era; understood; what I am talking about is the mundane, day-to-day, walking about in town, post 2020 era of today, where no one is thinking about hate in the melting pot, in the grocery stores, common courtesy at the traffic signals, in the education settings like schools. The stark contrast, is all of a sudden, someone in 2024 says, hey, I don't like such and such or so and so, although they a full American, just like the commentor, and it stems from propaganda and fostered attitudes from back in WWII.
Needless to say, it is even more embarrassing when those criticizing Germans and those with German descent, have German descent themselves. Same of course is true when attitudes get hot at Arabs, by Arab Americans that might not know they are grandchildren of Arab Americans. And so on.
What plausibly may have happened that lead up to conflicting attitudes but both manifested, really briefly daubed, is a pro-German attitude arose initially back in the about the 1920s, then switched to anti-German in the latter days of WWII, after the 'Allies determined what was going too far'.
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Realities in the Civil War
I mentioned above a dimension of the Civil War, reference the amount of those with German ancestry that served.
In studies of history and genealogy, I have found almost an absurd amount of material that uncovers conflictive or suppressed information about the pedigree and ethnic composition of families. As suspected, their are overlaps when it came to military conflicts.
More about this subject soon. I'm sure you might already know or see where this conversation is going.