Brief Reflections on 'Shed Thyself and Come to Me', Over the Rollout of American Society, Including Some of its Psychiatry and Psychology Trends

Today, quickly tap and daub a few thoughts, with the help of AI (artificial intelligence) for the same if time. There may be exact quotes to fulfill specific nuances and word choice that can be culled from pages such and such from a book authored by the Hadhrat Abdul Qadir Jilani, Bustami, Rumi, for instance, however, if it is English, most of the time it is a translation anyhow.

Interesting how tightly bound the house of some of those that are right minded are.

One of the keys that rises to the surface, is instead of skimming through material, reading through it thoroughly and make the effort to understanding it fully, can bring understanding to different levels.

In no particular order, starting with the book 'The Study of Abnormal Behavior; Selected Readings', 3rd ed., (Zax; Stricker), discusses in the beginning, Dr Thomas Szasz tearing to shreds the viability of aspects of the US medical-psychiatric-psychology 'straight jacket' of a system, perhaps as it was at the time book came out. Clearer when read through instead of skimmed.

It is known that there was 'a lot of money in it', referring to the system of housing and extorting money from many people, over myths of illness, sometimes which were not even a fully viable reason to exist. Power playing and so on. In the batch of the proponents of the game, are individuals I call the tricksters that are turncoats of Dr Siddiqui (refer 'founder of modern day Pakistan').

As far as the rollout of American history, and some, of its psychiatric and psychology 'schools' or trends, here is some of what happened:

Natives and others were on the land of at least the Continental US prior to, to give a number, year 1500.

Russians had come to the West Coast around southern California long before 1500.

Boats and treks from Europe, Vikings aside, started up, 1400s, 1500s.

Christopher Columbus, 'the list of the first settlers in Maryland', Stuyvesant, Coenraedt Ten Eyck, Virginia settlers, and others, may come to mind.

Around 1619, was a famous event of Angolan or Namibian (? notes check) individuals that were taken into an inlet that was purchased for that reason, and off boarded, perhaps one of the first 'official' 'slave sales' in US history, the location people now tend to call Hampton, VA (but as far as I know, was either not Hampton yet, or history rousers got the exact location slightly confused. Whether it was really a slavery moment or not, is another discussion. For fast forward purposes, the use of some sticks by other stocks for work, building, economic directions etc, eventually settled in.

A number of different intermarriages occurred as well since 1619, from Pocahontas, to Hispanics and Bengalis.

Meanwhile, AfroCaribbean developments since centuries of sugar cane and it's 'slavery', and intermarriages, began to shift, and folks started coming to the Continental US.

Colleges and universities started forming. Markedly Ivy League Schools.

The English, markedly New York, started to elbow out Dutch, in terms of power. New Amsterdam becomes New York as a microcosm.

'Irish need not apply here', was hanging around for a little bit.

Resentment of Chinese, took place, refer gold rush. Transcontinental railroad. Intermarriages in the south, such among Chinese and African Americans.

Arab Americans. Those escaping prosecution such as from Holocaust came to the US. Numerous Muslim given 'Jewish' truncated names, which may have led to amounts of confusion. What Jewish meant or means, may not ever wholly be gotten to the bottom of in certain frameworks.

Eventually, economic systems and their developments concurrent societal developments began to be almost projected for everything that happened.

There were the well-known wars, in Revolutionary, 1812, WWI, WWII, and Vietnam, which started to round out right around the time 'The Study of Abnormal Behavior', came out.

Now to the part that might help some folks out.

There was the series of baby booms.

Folks came home from WWII, and started raising a family.

Babies born from the late 1940s to 1950s, set, they got to be about 20 to 25, here comes the next set, which coincides with the end of the Vietnam War, soldiers starting their families in similar fashion, and appears en segue early '70s kids.

Freedom Rides and racial equality movements were going right before then as well.

But what were 70s kids hearing from their parents? What were their parents hearing in college, if they were there, or if they weren't there, being subjected to being pressurized with?, generally speaking.

The answer is, in the gamut, the pre-Szasz preachers, the Dr Iqbal turncoats, had been lambasting the baby boomer 1950s kids with their straight jacket stuff. Not to say 100% of what was being taught n colleges and univerisities was wrong, but some was nonsense. Unfortunately, some nonsense still sticks around today.

This is where 'shed thyself and come to Me', paraphrased, comes in.

'Me' of course, in this framework, means Lord Creator. Some say Allah.

Sufism, on a historical lense, made it's way to America in different ways and aspects. There were hand-me-down power structures from centuries past; sometimes it appeared the only remnants left had power involved but little to no behavioral discipline 'Sufiism' is known for.

Books being translated into English started to develop more in the early 1970s especially. It was no longer a case that one could only to find 2 or 3 books on the subject in DC or New York, Library of Congress. Today, thousands of works on the subject in English are readily available, and can be ordered online, dropped off at your doorstep within a day or 2 etc.

Circling back, Benjamin Franklin brought over a huge book collection, in brief; there were others that did stuff like that, travelled, book bringing, and had counsel from 'across the water'.

Back to what might be the helpful part; basically, shedding thyself and come to Me, or even just the come to Me portion, seems to be what prevails. Of course seek knowledge is wise as well.

Here is a quick set of AI helped queries and their answers that might elucidate why 'coming to Me', is over the head of getting wrapped up in an economically driven, decadence promoting, set of psychiatric and psychology schools. This regardless of what any powerful and influential policeman or woman, parent, teacher, school counselor, community leader, military person, TV star, psychologist, professor, anyone fueled by arrogance and misguidance (that may have on those caps or uniforms on the outward but not qualified on the inward, has to say and push.:

AI Mode Conversation

You said: what sufi said 'shed thyself and come to me'?

The famous quote "Leave your self (ego) and come to Me" (often translated or paraphrased as "shed thyself and come to me") was spoken by the iconic 9th-century early Persian Sufi mystic Bayazid al-Bistami (also known as Abu Yazid al-Bistami). [1, 2]

In Sufi tradition, this phrase is recorded as a Hadith Qudsi (divine inspiration) or a spiritual dialogue during Bastami’s deep state of mystical ascension. When he reached the divine presence and asked God how to attain ultimate closeness, the divine voice answered him: "Leave your ego (nafs) outside and come to Me." [1, 2, 3, 4]

Core Meaning of the Quote

This statement highlights the absolute core foundation of Sufi philosophy:

Fana (Annihilation of Self): A seeker cannot experience proximity to the Divine while still clinging to pride, greed, personal desires, or a separate identity. [1, 2]

The Ego as a Veil: In Sufism, the physical ego (nafs) is viewed as the ultimate barrier between the soul and God. True arrival is only achieved when the "I" completely dissolves. [1, 2, 4]

If you are exploring Sufi mysticism, I can share more about Bayazid al-Bistami's ecstatic sayings (shathiyat) or explain the stages of ego annihilation (Fana) on the spiritual path. Which direction would you like to take? [1, 2]

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You said: Hadhrat (Hazrat) Abdul Qadir Jilani says 'shed thyself and come to me'

The phrase "shed thyself and come to me" reflects the Sufi concept of fana, meaning the total surrender of the ego, personal desires, and worldly identity to align completely with the divine will through a spiritual master.

Meaning in Sufism

Shed thyself: Drop your selfish ego and false pride.

Come to me: Join the path of divine truth and spiritual purity.

The Master's Role: The spiritual guide acts as a mirror to show the seeker the way to God, not to worship the master himself.

Core Ideas

Ego Death: You must let go of "I" and "mine."

Pure Love: True faith requires a heart free from greed.

Spiritual Union: Surrender brings peace and closeness to God.

Would you like to explore more about the life of Hazrat Abdul Qadir Jilani or the concept of ego (nafs) in Sufism?

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You said: what does quran say along the lines of shed thyself and come to me

While the exact phrase "shed thyself and come to me" is not a literal quote from the Quran, it beautifully captures the core Islamic concept of Tazkiyah (purification of the self) and Aslama (total submission). [1, 2]

The closest textual matches to this sentiment are found in a famous Hadith Qudsi (a divine saying of God narrated by Prophet Muhammad) and several key Quranic verses regarding stripping away the ego (nafs) to return to God. [1, 2]

Here are the primary passages that carry this exact meaning:

1. The Hadith of Proximity: "Come to Me"

The most famous divine text regarding moving toward God is this Hadith Qudsi. It directly mirrors the idea of taking initiative to approach God, who responds with overwhelming closeness: [1]

"Allah the Almighty says: ... Whoever draws close to Me by the length of a hand, I will draw close to him by the length of an arm. Whoever draws close to Me by the length of an arm, I will draw close to him by the length of a fathom. Whoever comes to Me walking, I will come to him running."

— Sahih Muslim 2687 []

2. Prophet Abraham's Submission: "Surrender Thyself"

The concept of completely shedding one's personal desires, attachments, and ego to answer God's call is best exemplified by Prophet Abraham in Surah Al-Baqarah: [1]

When his Lord said to him, "Submit [yourself]!" He said, "I have submitted myself to the Lord of the worlds."

— Quran 2:131 [1]

3. Letting Go of Arrogance and the Ego

To "shed oneself" in Islamic spirituality means conquering the Nafs al-Ammarah (the ego that commands evil). The Quran explicitly tells believers to drop their pride if they want to call upon God: [1]

And your Lord says, "Call upon Me; I will answer you." Indeed, those who are too proud for My service will enter Hell abased.

— Quran 40:60 [1]

4. Moses Stripping Away His Sandals

For a literal command involving "shedding" something to enter the divine presence, God commands Prophet Moses at the sacred valley of Tuwa:

“Indeed, I am your Lord, so remove your sandals. Indeed, you are in the sacred valley of Tuwa.”

— Quran 20:12

Many classical spiritual commentators (Mufassirun) note that removing the sandals metaphorically represents shedding the attachments of the material world and the ego before standing in intimate conversation with God.

5. The Ultimate Return of the Peaceful Soul

For those who successfully "shed" their lower impulses and worldly delusions, God invites them back to Him with ultimate tenderness:

[To the righteous it will be said], "O reassured soul, return to your Lord, well-pleased and pleasing [to Him], and enter among My [righteous] servants, and enter My Paradise."

— Quran 89:27-30

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You said: case... father who went to... colleges in the late 1960s early 1970s befor (before) Szasz became famous, yells and berates his kid born slightly after 1973 that something is medically wrong with him causing him to have mental illness...

Based on the historical, medical, and psychological context of the late 1960s and early 1970s, this dynamic reflects a complex mix of racial anxiety, generational trauma, and the shifting landscape of American psychiatry.

Here is a breakdown of the specific historical and psychological forces driving this behavior.

The Impact of Thomas Szasz

Anti-Psychiatry Movement: Thomas Szasz became widely famous for his 1961 book The Myth of Mental Illness, which argued that mental illnesses are not physical diseases but "problems in living."

The Father's Rejection: Because this father formed his worldviews before Szasz's ideas fully permeated mainstream culture, he strictly adheres to the traditional, rigid medical model of psychiatry.

Biological Blame: By insisting something is "medically wrong," the father weaponizes psychiatry to pathologize his child rather than accepting any personal or familial responsibility for the conflict.

Racial Projection and Anxiety

Interracial Tensions: Marrying a woman of Afro-Caribbean or African American descent in the late 1960s or early 1970s—immediately following the 1967 Loving v. Virginia Supreme Court decision—carried immense social pressure.

Scientific Racism: Historically, mainstream American psychiatry frequently pathologized Black traits, anger, or non-conformity as genetic defects or mental illnesses (such as the weaponization of "schizophrenia" against Black civil rights activists in the 1960s).

Scapegoating the Child: The father is projecting his own racial biases, anxieties, or societal shame onto the child, viewing the child's mixed heritage as a biological "flaw" or the root cause of perceived behavioral issues.

The Massachusetts College Environment

Elitist Pressures: Attending college in Massachusetts during this era (the height of Vietnam War protests and counterculture) exposed him to intense intellectual and social upheaval.

Defensive Authoritarianism: If the father leaned conservative or felt threatened by the changing social order, he may have doubled down on authoritarianism, using yelling and berating to maintain absolute control over his household.

Obsession with Status: Massachusetts academic culture heavily emphasized prestige and perfection, making any perceived vulnerability or "imperfection" in his child feel like a direct threat to his social standing.

Psychological Effects on the Child

Internalized Shame: A child born after 1973 subjected to this treatment is highly likely to internalize the idea that they are fundamentally broken or biologically defective.

Identity Confusion: The child is forced to navigate a fractured identity, where their maternal heritage is treated as a medical liability by their paternal authority figure.

C-PTSD: Constant yelling, berating, and medical gaslighting from a parent are core catalysts for Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (C-PTSD), emotional dysregulation, and profound self-doubt in adulthood.

Mr Szasz wife was nee Loshkajian of Syria, according to record.

Thomas Szasz said...

Let's take it a step further; after you have shed thyself, and went forward to the Lord, the instruction or guidance may have been to finish schooling, so that you would be more qualified for earnings, and can house feed and guide your family, protecting them from ways of instruction, while the 'cool' or 'normal' thing to do is quit at 4 years worth of trying.

The action to take may have been to pick up a night job for a few days of the week, to help feed your family... instead of, off at 5, home by 5:30, and listen to music until the start of the next day.

Life, especially one that makes a positive contribution, is not horses trucked in to the Kentucky Derby. There are other horse races out there. Men are not horses.

Horses in position at Kentucky Derby to ride the track. Picture courtesy https://www.pexels.com/photo/horses-racing-on-a-track-13028737/ .

Getting right down to it, where are you supposed to be?, what are you supposed to be doing?, how much time have you wasted in the waste of time whirlpool that revolves around bogus psychiatry?, what can you do now, now that you understand that some of the body and mind shackles to get one distracted through a psychiatric/psychology system such as before Szasz, is better shaken off for what it really is?

More on Dr Szasz at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Szasz .

Mr Szasz wife was nee Loshkajian of Syria, according to record.

Thomas Szasz said...

A strong hit on the head of the nail:

'You had better pay attention, O miserable wretch, and try to learn from what has happened to you. Come to your senses, wake up from your slumber, shake off your heedless indifference, and take a good hard look at what has befallen you.'

– Al-Ghunya li-Talibi Tariq al-Haqq – Sufficient Provision for the Seekers of the Path of Truth by Shaykh Abdul Qadir al-Jilani rahimahu Llah –

https://towardsenlightment.wordpress.com/2015/07/15/end-of-the-month-of-ramadan/

(US) Race to Escape and Compete with China... while... Neverending Enmeshment of Chinese Parts in Infrastructure. Ongoing Technology Study.

Its kind of hard to fit a short bio about every employee that ever worked for some of the major computer parts manufacturers in China, plus bios of other branches internationally, like Bengalaru,in one 3 paragraph post.

100s of thousands of bios.

AI data centers are getting everyone excited.

The scene of swarms of people that instead of going to college are spending the night on campus with food, swimming pools, etc, a society, might start getting replaced by robots.

Maybe this post was best left with just the title, and fill in the blanks. There's a lot of blanks.

Just to point out some directions to look into-

Here's a refreshing opportunity for the US to get something major going on their soil, data centers. Complaints aside, such as riding energy bills by people living nearby.

For decades, Chinese companies have been producing the parts for US label computers and tech devices, like Dell computers, and iPads.

2026, in the data center and AI (artificial intelligence) era as the horizons moving into, Chinese companies are slated to send, there might not be a number I can put a finger on, but it's a lot, parts to data centers.

Cooperation is great.

Oxymorons or conflicts of interest might arise when trying to use the very parts supplied from a source, to get ahead of the source.

Just how many dimensions are involved?

Part supply locations are all over the world. If everything is in a vacuum, and goes perfectly as planned, there might only be 2 or 3 sets of dynamics involved in the parts enmeshment arena, China, other locations where the plants are located, and the US.

Getting a hold of just that as the boilerplate for assessment, is a lot of study.

What about potentialities outside the box and perfect vacuum?

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What were some of the tippers to this post?:

Apparatuses like BIX.

Visualize the biggest BIX that could exist.

Punch down.

In that punch, besides sugar and food coloring, what if the pins that read instantly transfer all information to the producer of the pins?

Analog a data center taking up miles.

Might as well embrace and get set to live by the credo, what's mine is yours.

Svengali. (Anyone Guilty?)

A case if a word that leads to other worlds.

Maleficent in there with it.

The concept, Svengali, has been out here over 100 years.

Do people today allow themselves to slip into that cut-out?

Do entire organizations, politically influential groups, and social architects-engineers fall into it as well?

These are some study notes.

In the background might be coincidentally study on the famous Kenneth the hairdresser.

War Fueling Deja Vu? ... Lebanon, Syria... Russia Supply... 1982... 2026 ??

There's too much focus on not focusing on what's going on in the strife between Ukraine and Russia through here, referring to basic 'media', TV/Internet.

SAMS in 1982.

The photos of what really happened (clashes in Lebanon and Syria in the early 1980s, including events like Sabra and Shatila, and lesser known events, '3 major religions broadcast over the news media as involved, in Muslim, Jew, Christian, were too sickening to be shown.

The repercussions, or sequence of events was known going in, before the gorounds happened. '82ish.

Reports are post Assad, Russia has 'resumed' the architecture of supplying weapons to Syria.

What went on recently in Lebanon especially?

While Iran was a major focus, then seemed to subside, there was a concurrent missile striking activity over Lebanon and Syria. Start 2026 through about now several months later.

Blueprint looks the same.

Hmmm. I guess some money was made in the 80s, through oppression and blood.

Is it really working now.

Sell telephone poles and lines hard enough, you might sell some, even though fiber optics and Internet had made advent.

'There's more'. Is it S 300PMU..?

Honestly, who cares?

Notwithstanding that dark colored made very clear overarch that says ethically boundaries crossed, by a bunch of people, here's a list of buzzwords for study:

What-

Shahed drone tactics - 5/13/2026

1982- AI says in 5/13/2026:

"...weapons and military hardware supplied by the Soviet Union to Syria around 1982 included:

Air Defense Systems

SA-5 Gammon (S-200): Long-range surface-to-air missile systems, reportedly delivered with Soviet crews.

SA-14 Gremlin (MANPADS): Portable anti-aircraft missile systems.

ZSU-23-4 Shilka: Self-propelled anti-aircraft guns. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Aircraft

MiG-25 Foxbat: High-speed interceptors and reconnaissance aircraft.

MiG-23 Flogger: Fighter aircraft. [1, 2]

Armor and Ground Weapons

T-72 Tanks: Modern main battle tanks, with over 1,200 delivered throughout the decade.

BMP-2: Infantry fighting vehicles.

BTR-60: Armoured personnel carriers.

BM-21 Grad: Multiple rocket launchers. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Missiles

SS-21 Scarab (9K79 Tochka): Tactical surface-to-surface missiles.

Scud B & Scud C: Surface-to-surface missiles.

9K111 Fagot (AT-4 Spigot): Anti-tank missiles. [1, 2, 3]

Other Supplies

Chemical Agent Components: Reports indicate the Soviet Union supplied specialized chemical agent components for nerve agent production (Substance 33).

Naval Vessels: Osa-class missile boats."

Who-

Rosoboronexport

Rosoboronexport is a legal successor of the state arms exporters which existed in the ex-USSR and present-day Russia. A state intermediary agency in the military-technical area was first created on 8 May 1953, when the General Engineering Department within the Ministry of Internal and Foreign Trade of the USSR was founded in accordance with the decision of the Soviet Government.[citation needed]

JSC Rosoboronexport (ROE; Russian: AO Рособоронэкспорт, Rosoboroneksport) is the sole state intermediary agency for Russia's exports/imports of defense-related and dual use products, technologies and services. The Rosoboronexport Federal State Unitary Enterprise (FSUE) was set up in 2000 by a Decree of the President of Russia and is charged with implementation of the policy of the State in the area of military-technical cooperation between Russia and foreign countries. In 2007, the enterprise was re-registered as Rosoboronexport Open joint-stock company (OJSC). In 2011, Rostekhnologii non-profit state corporation acquired 100% of Rosoboronexport OJSC.

Headquarters

27, Stromynka [ru] Street 107076, Moscow, Russian Federation

Number of locations

21, Gogolevsky Bvld. 119992

Products

Firearms, Ammunition, Accessories, Optoelectronics, Telescopic sights, Night sights, Tanks, Attack helicopters, Individual combat systems[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosoboronexport

Almaz-Antey

JSC Concern VKO "Almaz-Antey" (Russian: ОАО "Концерн ВКО "Алмаз-Антей"») is a Russian state-owned company in the arms industry, a result of a merger of Antey Corporation and NPO Almaz, unifying some of the national military enterprises, in particular, the developers of anti-aircraft defence and cruise missile systems. The organisation is headquartered in Moscow and is the world's eighth-largest defence contractor measured by 2017 defence revenues. In 2017, Almaz-Antey had arms sales of $9.125 billion.

The Almaz-Antey group produce air defense systems, firearms for aircraft and armored vehicles, artillery shells and surface-to-surface missiles, airspace surveillance and coordination and artillery radars. The group also manufacture civilian products such as navigation systems, air traffic systems, civil airtraffic- and weather radars, sewage cleaning systems, ventilation valves for nuclear power plants, and plastic packaging for cosmetics and food products.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almaz-Antey_Corporation

Russian Aircraft Corporation "MiG" (Russian: Российская самолётостроительная корпорация „МиГ“, romanized: Rossiyskaya samolyotostroitel'naya korporatsiya "MiG"),[2] commonly known as Mikoyan and MiG, is a Russian aerospace and defence company headquartered in Begovoy District, Moscow.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan

Sukhoi

The JSC Sukhoi Company (Russian: АО «Компания „Сухой“», Russian pronunciation: [sʊˈxoj]) is a Russian aircraft manufacturer headquartered in Begovoy District, Northern Administrative Okrug, Moscow,[4] that designs both civilian and military aircraft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi

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The prospect that someone is going to see a bright red demon with horns and pointed ears riding an aerial aircraft to bomb someone might be slim reality. The prospect is more realistic of many small amounts of energy are exerted by those don't mean well, on the far out fringes of the social fabric, which form up and envelope the society and it's tensions inside, so that, destructive history would eventually repeat itself.

- A plane fell from the sky, may have been a microcosm, many planes fell especially over Bekaa in 1982; except a few. Those few may have been the devastating, psychologically etc, events, that, should not be repeated.

At the rate things are going, and after a set of fires occured in Palestine after October 7th, such as near the hospital, the trajectory may be headed to repeating events like, planes crashing into populated areas after being shot down, in 1982.

The wiser choice, over the head of political this and that, this weapons complex, that new merger, fresh linings of pockets, is to put a dampened ceiling on the heightening of reckless violence, slow it down before it gets there.

Revisiting Sync: From Pure to Pure (an Ideal) and From Pure to Escape (an Ideal)

Reiterated ideal of going along a path of 'returning' to a very pure soul that is always a good boy or girl after they did or thought some bad in their life, couple that with seeking higher whereat when the analog of knocking on the door to get to the High, knock who's there?.. so and so... turned down from entry to higher level, until eventually the answer that gets the person through door might not be what the seeker earlier expected. Up around there is one of the baselines or well known set of ideas, that serves as part of the backdrop for the comparison explained here.

On the practical level, what's going on today?, around us, our society, in spring of 2026? Especially here in the USA.

This blog post is intended to be a 5 minute jotting of thoughts, not a PhD thesis with grammar 'Flesch- Kincaided' pumped up, etc.

However, I'm pretty sure a lot of PhD candidates are going through, or if they aren't, might want to consider going through, motions that run along the lines of this discussion right through here.

What's going on, 2026...?

In 1970 Dr Heinz Hartmann passed.

'70s kid'. Studious folks may be familiar with the concept. If you look around, 70s babies are at the prime of holding influential positions and posts right around now. People that are in the age group of late 40s to early 60s, just before average technical retirement age (62), are prominent lawyers, doctors, authorities, law enforcement chiefs, etc.

70s kids parents, if the average parent had their child between age 20 and 30, had their previous generation known also as baby boomers, so 70s kids were the kids of 50s kids, and so on.

50s kids were the kids of WWII timeframe kids. WWII, kids those of WWI, and so on.

Hypothetically Dr Hartmann around the late 1960s, early 1970, may have been considered 'at the top of the heap and game' of aspects of the psychology field by aspects of the psychology field here in the USA, especially as it relates to society.

The idea of supreme or supremacy, in terms of the seasoned most scientist, and eldest for a genre, of those that were walking and talking in the practical sense.

'50s kids, the baby boomers, were the crop that was entering college or in college, finishing degrees etc, at around age 18 to 20, which fits the puzzle, logic, timeline, almost exact to the scissor cut. Right at that time, Hartmann was considered pretty much boss for psychology/society subject matters in certain academe.

Basically, if you're a 70s kid living in America and your parents were 50s kids the same, and they were going to colleges and top notch colleges back in the late 60s early 70s, there's a chance that they may have at least heard about ideas of Dr Hartmann, either directly or somewhere in the ripple pool of psychologist, neuroscientists, the ilk and group. Impacts varying. Scale of 0 to 10 for example.

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There were a number of leading psychologists, students, lecturers, that were functioning in that time frame, many of which either knew or were aware of the others.

Public domain off Wikipedia, that looks like it was from the Library of Congress, https://www.loc.gov/rr/print/res/118_freu.html
The link might not take you directly to photo, but the idea to is there.
As far as the picture, it's not the central theme of this write-up, but it did readily present itself and 'right there', so, go ahead and put it on in there, it'll only take a few seconds, deal.
What that photo is: 'English: Freud and other psychoanalysts : (left to right seated) Freud, Sàndor Ferenczi, and Hanns Sachs (standing) Otto Rank, Karl Abraham, Max Eitingon, and Ernest Jones'.

...Basically, if you're a 70s kid... there's a chance that some of Dr Hartmann's ideas 'came home', meaning were in the hindsight, in the foresight, and places in between, of how 70s kids were raised by 50s kids, how doctors and the police that were 50s kids, interacted with 70s kids, using psychoanalysis tools they were exposed to included in their basis. (Parents that did not raise their kids, neglect, and those vagaries included; this refers more to the generation, not the how well raised.)

[Might not be everybody everywhere, for example, households way out from cities in Native Reservations where the parents weren't sitting in the front rows of college auditoriums for hours 5 and 7 days a week being the audience of psychoanalytic theory promulgated by folks the Freud circles.]

What were some of those Dr Hartmann ideas?

Hmmm, ego... id... conflict-free sphere... adaptation... syntonic.

Stuff like that. Meaning, those are some of words found today in English, in, the answer to the question, (differentiated from, just the answer to the question).

Were there some times when focusing on id and ego, and adapting to conceptions of American folkways, the best medicine for a challenge, in day to day living?

If 990 out of a 1000 teenagers are all dancing to some popular songs at a concert with their hair dyed, wearing athletic shoes that costs the amount of a used car, say around 1990, does that make the 10 holdouts weird? Do those 10 holdouts, the 'abnormal' boys and girls, need to go to jail, says an 'educated' on psychoanalytic theory, law enforcement guy, or bounty hunter, (which may have been accompanied with an attitude and attitudeless attitude)?

At this point obviously no.

What if 7 out of the last 10 were all slapped with a label, psychiatrically ill, or having schizophrenia, because they must be 'split', schizo meaning split, into multiples, a normal teenager, that must be at concert with joke costing shoes, you pick a color other than brown, black, red or blonde for hair spray, listening to music that hasn't been heard about since 2 days after it came out, on the one end, and split forms when the other 'multiple' says, sit down, stay sober and under control?

Yeah, said softly, digressions might be involved here a little bit too.

'Normal' American kids for a time were expected to take a bath in the morning, comb their hair, put on some nice clothes that fit their or their parent's cloth, be respectful, go to school and act 'nice'.

Slowly over time, the normal kid, seen on the cover of toy box of some sort, combed hair, plaid button down shirt, jeans, at the movies with his soon to be wife, digressed to a rowdy rebellious with marriage the last thing on his mind.

Going back to, when 7 out 10 kids are 'psychologically troubled', per the dub of the local 50s kids, a.k.a. 'the system', either trying to tap their parents piggy bank by asking them to pay exorbitant fees to psych institutions, usually, the reality was healthy kids being robbed- the 3 kids left, are they to be jailed too because of all the nonsense?

What did go on from the 50s, to through the 60s, on through where we are today? Obviously there was a lot of convoluted trash that happened, that got mixed up in medical and psychological science, advances, but, where is the tracing back to the core of where the problems all began, or some of them?

As some readers already on thread have figured out, the staircase in reverse while doing the trace, may have gotten started before the 50s. There are folks still alive, might be older like 90 to 100 plus years old, that saw all this go down.

Quickly, here is what AI, artificial intelligence, results on Google have to say, as of about the time of this writing:

{Question/query:} What were political motivations and allegiances of Heinz Hartmann?

{AI responses:}

Heinz Hartmann (1894–1970) was a prominent Austrian psychiatrist and psychoanalyst whose political motivations and allegiances were shaped by the need to escape Nazi persecution and the subsequent desire to establish psychoanalysis as a scientifically respectable, adaptable, and "Americanized" medical science. He is known as the key figure in the development of ego psychology. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Political Motivations and Context

Escape from Nazism: Hartmann’s primary political motivation during the late 1930s was survival. He left Austria with his family in 1938 to escape the Nazis, passing through Paris and Switzerland before settling in New York in 1941.

Adaptation and "Normalcy": Following his forced emigration, Hartmann focused heavily on the concept of adaptation to an "average expectable environment," as outlined in his 1939 work Ego Psychology and the Problem of Adaptation. This was partly a response to the upheaval he and other European analysts experienced, aiming to understand how individuals can remain "normal" or "healthy" in a changing, often hostile, world.

Opposition to Totalitarianism: His work on the autonomous ego—which emphasizes adaptation rather than solely instinctual, chaotic drives—has been interpreted as a contrast to the, at the time, growing influence of totalitarian, irrational ideologies that disregarded individual ego strength.

Americanization of Psychoanalysis: In the US, Hartmann and his colleagues (Ernst Kris and Rudolph Loewenstein) moved away from the more speculative aspects of psychoanalysis to align it with psychiatry and American medicine, emphasizing the ego's role in functioning and social integration. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Allegiances and Professional Influence

The Vienna Psychoanalytic Society: Hartmann was a student and follower of Sigmund Freud in Vienna and part of a key generation of followers that included Anna Freud, Ernst Kris, and Helene Deutsche.

Ego Psychology Triumvirate: In New York, he formed what was known as the ego-psychology triumvirate with Ernst Kris and Rudolph Loewenstein, which became the dominant psychoanalytic paradigm in America for over three decades.

Leadership Positions: He served as president of the International Psychoanalytical Association (1951–57) and the New York Psychoanalytic Association (1952–54), cementing his role as a leader in mainstream, "orthodox" (but heavily adapted) psychoanalysis.

Opposition to Lacan: Hartmann was a notable opponent of the French psychoanalyst Jacques Lacan, whose views on the ego contrasted sharply with Hartmann’s structural ego psychology. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]

Hartmann's work was considered to be a key, yet often criticized, attempt to integrate psychoanalysis into the mainstream, creating a more "optimistic" view of human nature that favored environmental adaptation over pure instinctual conflict. [1, 2]

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Hartmann, Heinz (1894-1970) - Encyclopedia.com

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Dr Hartmann, NY Psychoanalytic Institute. In 1939 did a piece of writing that was first published in German. Later translated into English.

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Perhaps without the afterthought of the maybe medicine in a spoonful, the help of what this post might be intended to do might not be accelerated --

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If you're a teenager going to school, it's okay to show up with your clothes ironed.

At lunch, it's okay to eat a good soup, or Challah bread, or have in the lunch box a combination of some fruits like a bunch of grapes or a few lychee.

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Other students might poke fun; either a sandwich, school lunch, or local fast food lunch deal, (which these days can cost anywhere from $10 to $20, enough to gas a parent's car up with gas for half the week to get to work to pay for the school), is 'lunch'; anything outside that, regardless of what's best for the kid or what's healthy, is 'weird'.

Lunch break doesn't have to be inundated with music from a stereo blasting the latest set of noise, nor sneaking in illicit substances behind the school building.

You can sit cross-legged in a circle, have your pita, cheese, ground beef that was cooked at home, and relax.

Students do not have to sit through the entirety of lunch, a half hour or hour, at their desk, eating pizza, which is pita, cheese, and ground beef with a label on it, while they lose circulation in their legs. And if they don't acquiesce, after the first few minutes of walking home, get picked up by the 250 pound bully called a bounty hunter that probably didn't finish high school, then when in some kind of building, a 'facility', start shoving all kinds of pills down the student's throat, sticking them with all kinds of needles, who knows what's in there or the ingredients, subjecting the student with all kinds of concepts, sometimes downright solicitation and child abuse coming from 'members of the untouchable above the law system'.

Moderation.

Literally running for your life, and when you get to safety, not sticking out like a sore thumb for safety reasons, such as not to catch the eye of could be attackers might have some wisdom, common sense.

Evading attack on the one end, but engaging in extremes of things that were done in tiny amounts from years past for safety, can be an extreme in itself.

Examples are wearing a religious cap out in public, or the old ask a question to the cashier at McDonald's, Arby's, Pizza Hut, Domino's, whether there's pork in the products at the group outing scenario.

Students on a field trip

Soldiers in unit

Business persons on a group business trip

One of them asks, is there pork on meat lover's pizza?

The cashier says, 'not sure, will check', 2 minutes later comes back and says, 'there's beef, pork, and chicken on the pizza'.

Natural reply, 'can you leave the pork out on mine? Is there an option?'

The group leader, whether supervisor, teacher, or military leader pulls that person aside, and says, 'you're fired, going home, or sit on the bus the rest of the time'. You go hungry. Your job is jeopardy. The preach of 'you're weird' and 'don't fit in' conversation starts up.

Everybody signed the nondiscrimination agreement.

But the content of the agreement got ignored.

It's 2026.

Sure, the extreme left, extremists included, can attempt to use this and many other things in their plans. That's bound to happen as an expected expectation.